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Not really, no. You can take action to address symptoms… but those don't do anything about the problem. For example, you can take myriad pain relievers to feel less shitty about a cold - addressing the symptoms - but the problem is still there, unaddressed.
Firearm violence is no different. Pitbulls are no different.
First, let's highlight the obvious issue - Human breeding is largely a narcissistic practice, we don't need to allow the breeding of the least intelligent ones.
Second, your irrational fear of a thing does not justify restrictions on that thing.
Yes, when the root problem is unaddressable, like in the case of a cold virus or say, HIV, we instead treat the symptoms as the next best option… so when the root problem of gun violence is 'people having moments of unhingedness" or the root cause of doog attacks is "people being bad dog owners" things that are just statistical realities of the human race that you'll never be able to eliminate, then you treat the symptoms to make them less severe.
Again, this is why America is the only western country in the world where the number one cause of death for children is gun violence.
Yes we do, read any of the past century of the history of eugenics and youll see the horrible outcomes that result when you try to prevent it.
Again, you're the only country where people are regularly mass murdered. It is absolutely insane how fucking deluded you are. You can see literally orders of magnitude more western people looking at your children getting slaughtered for no reason but go 'nope, Merica always the best, never wrong about anything, no mistakes in our history of decision making'. Like Jesus fucking Christ, gain an ounce or thimble or whatever dumbass unit you use full of perspective and self doubt.
And here's where the statement falls apart - you've provided nothing showing the root causes of firearm violence to be unaddressable. Heck, specific to mass shootings, the problems - including "unhingedness" - are very well-understood and very addressable. Specific to aggressive dogs, the common theme raised in these discussions - especially in criticism of this breed-behavior nonsense - is that the person behind the dog is the problem. I'm interested in hearing how you see that as unaddressable.
Would that be the NEJM study which directly recognizes the reasons for such an anomaly are unclear in the same breath it recognizes the overlap with the time of crisis and desperation (hmm, where have we seen that before…) that was the COVID-19 pandemic as if to highlight an explanation, ignores that there were other significantly more severe increases in causes of child deaths (e.g. drug overdose and poisoning), intentionally combines suicide and homicide as if they're the same, and generally disregards everything in favor of a single distilled talking point? One that specifically avoids asking why and exploring the anomaly?
Worry not, Pew Research explored the anomaly somewhat - of note:
I wonder if there are, say, any long-standing inequality issues regarding opportunity & desperation between some of these demographics, issues which may be thematically similar with observations raised of mass shootings… Nah, it's gotta be what the headline said.
I see the irony here flew right by you. You're entirely okay eradicating an entire breed of a living thing because you're angry with it / scared of it / just don't like it, but balk at humanity having done the same before to its own? Interesting.
Had you actually addressed a point anywhere in this conversation, I'd have given that some consideration.
Quite the opposite - we, instead, seek to solve underlying issues rather than only caring how the violence occurred. You could learn a thing or two from seeking to improve lives. Also, never wrong about anything? Lmao.
Eliminating a breed of domestic animal that we created for own purposes by not killing them but just not actively breeding them anymore, is not the same thing as eugenics.
Read some fucking history before making dumbass comments like that.
Lol, you just through out of a bunch of bullshit to muddy the water
Bruh, you have metal detectors in every single fucking school and useless cops with guns harassing children in the hallway, shut the fuck up about addressing the "root problems". You're treating the symptoms the same as every country, you just have your hands cuffed by your dumbass 200 year old constitution that prevents you from treating the effective system that every other country treats.
Go ahead and tell me, how many mass casualty incidents were there at UK schools last year? Now how many at American schools?
You literally live in the ONLY country on earth where there are regular school shootings, but noooooooo, the difference there couldn't possibly be that you're also the only nation on earth with unrestricted firearms being purchasable by anyone. Totally unrelated things!
You're honestly being so fucking stupid it hurts. Enjoy your next Trump presidency and further slide into shit. Dumbassery like "guns are good! They help people" when your children literally have gun violence as their number one cause of death is flat out embarrassing.
Biased selective breeding quite literally is eugenics. Try picking up a dictionary sometime.
More bland hyperbole? Neat.
Projection, from you? No way! One of us is operating entirely on bullshit, I agree - but it isn't me.
Ah - and there it is, the pretense there's only one singular difference between the two countries that are otherwise complete identical copies of each other so as to conclusively show there are no other factors to the violence issues, right on cue - true to form, in rant form and dodging one more by criticisms raised.
The irony, once more, seems entirely lost on you.
Lmao, you're right, the denial and cognitive dissonance that Americans have to live with every day would drive anyone to the breaking point
It's fortunate, then, that we only have to live with your cognitive dissonance and denial through your disingenuous shitposting on the internet, and that despite your fearmongering and other sensationalism, such breaking points are still pretty rare.
Enjoy your children being massacred on a regular basis. We won't.