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    Trump went from majority support to majority support. He will win the nomination because conservatives, Republicans in particular are terrible, awful people. None of this is really even new, they’ve been terrible for decades and decades.

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        We need to find some way to meet their needs that isn’t politics, because the needs they are meeting have nothing to do with governance.

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          There is nothing you can do that they won’t turn into politics. They turned the existence of groups of people into politics. That’s right by simply existing its politics. And there is no way you can avoid it.

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            Except that’s not politics. Not in any meaningful, constructive sense. It’s partisan but it’s not political, and I think there’s a pretty big difference.

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              But that’s the problem you and I may think that way but a lot of people don’t. It has allowed them to make a myriad of non-political subjects political.

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          We need to find some way to meet their needs that isn’t politics

          Uhh, an MMO where they can run around shooting at minorities and yelling racial epithets into their mics?

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            They’re scared. They are powerless to affect an uncertain future. They’ll get worse the longer they have to live like this. I guess we have to fix the world?

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                Yeah, and a drowning man needs to stop thrashing and pulling down his rescuers, but he’s fucking drowning.

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              They are easily scared you mean? For people who are so easily scared of everything, they sure seem to embrace guns and COVID like it’s their new Jesus.

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                Your false bravado isn’t fooling anyone. If you’re not scared, you should be. If you feel in control of your future 20 years from now, you’re lying to yourself.

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          They’ve been so annoying since burning crosses fell out of style.

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            More to do with enforcement than fashion. Which means it is still happening where they can get away with it.

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      When so many people make comments like this and “basket of deplorables”, is it any wonder that so many people are so enthusiastic about Trump? It’s clear to them that people like you think very little of people like them, and they see him as “their guy”. Turns out people don’t like it when others make sweeping generalizations by calling them, and nearly half the country, evil.

      • They actively call my family members “pedophiles” for being gay. I don’t like it when they make sweeping generalisations and call my family evil.

        So forgive me for thinking you’re a reprehensible person if you support a person as vile as Trump. He started the mudslinging, not us.

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        “I don’t like people who are actively supporting a bigoted criminal trying to get more power.”

        “See, this is why they are supporting the bigoted criminal.”

        Okay then…

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        I am not responsible for conservatives abhorrent attitudes. If someone pointing out how absolutely shitty you are being makes you even more shitty, that is entirely on you.

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        It is kind of telling how emotionally fragile republicans are based on how the deplorables comment devastated them.

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        And this is why democrats throw on the shocked pikachu face every election they lose. When you shit on a person for years, have kneejerk reactions to whatever they think and generalize half the population, don’t be shocked when they don’t vote for “your guy”. Also, your slightly racist grandma will go out and vote every time, when your asses won’t.

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      Rhetoric like that is absolutely going to make them more willing to work with you, you should keep it up.

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          They’re not going to, though. Believing they will makes you naive or stupid. What happens then?

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            You know, last century not a single decent person would say “we should work with the fascists”… and yet here we are…

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              Fine. Take it that way, I’m getting past caring honestly.

              You can think about this shit a little more deeply than that or you can interpret what I said that way. I’m sick of trying to talk sense into you assholes, it’s not worth it.

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                The time for a conversation has passed a long time ago. Nobody is convincing anybody of anything.

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                  I have to believe that’s not the case. The moment the time for conversation ends is the moment violence happens. That’s not an opinion or a threat, that’s how humanity operates. And if y’all wanna do that then fine, you do that, but I don’t want to be involved.

                  But since when you twats decide to light my country on fire I’m going to have to try to keep living in it, I’m gonna keep trying to talk to people that’ll listen. At least I’m fucking doing something to fix the shit, what are you doing?

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                Rhetoric like that is absolutely going to make them more willing to work with you, you should keep it up.

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          Because they’re not going away, to be honest. I’m a conservative but I’m not one of them (call me a libertarian if it makes it easier to classify). I’m pro choice, and pro gay marriage, and pro drug legalization, but I think the tenth amendment matters more than you do and I’m pro gun. That makes me a conservative, fine. But we agree on a fuck load of things, and I’m not the only one like me. There’s lots of people who think like I do. And they’re enough people they’re a margin of victory. If you’re ok with them voting for Donald Trump then, by all means, keep it up. But if you want to be a fucking adult about this shit and understand that different people value different things there’s a lot of dialogue to be had, and that language (on both sides) is how we got as fucked up as we have.

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              You’re right, more people should be armed so they don’t even need the states to have rights.

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                Funny thing is, liberals are getting armed. I am a die hard liberal, and we have several guns in the house.

                We are not all going to get shot like that lady with the rainbow flag in her shop… I mean, we’ll probably get shot anyway, but at least we could fight back. And who knows, maybe just seeing that we are armed will dissuade the POSs that want to try.

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                  I love that, honestly. I have lots of liberal friends, and I encourage firearm ownership among them.

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                Say what you want, you aren’t going to get under my skin with nonsense. But I’m right, and I’m smarter than you are, especially about this, and you guys better get your shit together before you really cost the country.

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                  I then enlighten us, libertarians generally want unrealistic deregulation in areas that result in poorer educational, health, and economic outcomes for groups of people that aren’t themselves.

                  Cutting taxes while giving roads, power lines, municipal waste and water systems, schools and whatever else to a public private partnership or free market that can do “better” doesn’t work. It’s unrealistic and the reason libertarians are a joke.

                  If you’re really a liberal who likes guns and disagrees with the left on a few other issues, get in line and welcome to the left. Where disorganized leaderless handwringing at least doesn’t lead to (as many) dead lgbt teens and (such exacerbated) globe ending pollution.

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            I’m fine with people being conservative. I’m not okay with people who are still supporting Trump and all the lies of the MAGA crowd.

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    This guy could be 20 points down in some random poll. I’m showing up to the polls against him.

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    Worth pointing out that a national poll is pointless as we do not have national elections.

    Show me the polling from these states:

    Iowa - 1/15 Caucus - 8/24 - Trump +20
    New Hampshire - 1/22 Primary - 8/15-17 - Trump +20
    Nevada - 2/6 Primary, 2/8 Caucus 6/26-28 - Trump +30
    South Carolina - 2/24 Primary 8/17-19 - Trump +34
    Michigan - 2/27 Primary 8/1-2 - Trump +48
    Idaho - 3/2 Caucus (no polls available)
    D.C. - 3/3 Primary (no polls available)
    (Trump D.C. Trial begins) - 3/4
    Super Tuesday - 3/5 - Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Maine, Masachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia.
    Mini-Tuesday - 3/12 - Georgia, Mississipi, Washington

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    Could also be due to his absolutely ridiculous mug shot. He looks like a 5 year old crying and pouting because he has to stand in the corner for doing something bad. From the picture you can easily understand why aids testified under oath that Trump threw food on the wall. You cannot help but wonder: Is President Crybaby going to launch nuclear weapons because he didn’t get his ice cream?

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fe792f17-6e1f-494f-bc6b-a9e740f16bf7.jpeg

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      He raised over 7 million dollars from that mugshot in the 48 hours after it was released. Laugh all you want, but his cult was buying up “boohoo I’m so persecuted” merch by rascal load.

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        That’s a good thing. The more that Crybaby Trump’s humiliating picture is out there, the better. And that is another 7 million dollars that will not be used to help elect Republicans

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          Yeah, it would suck if it’s going to fund campaigns, but it’ll only be used for Trump, and largely probably legal funds.

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      Also, if the rumors he doesn’t drink are true they he absolutely was crying with those red eyes of his.

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        I mean he probably didn’t sleep great the night before either. You have to think that underneath all the bullshit and bravado he is actually concerned about facing repercussions even if he firmly believes he did nothing wrong.

        As foolish as he may be, we also know he is a selfish, self-centered egomaniac who is concerned for his own well being above everything else in the entire universe. So I bet he is high-key stressing on this behind the scenes.

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          oh he was absolutely crying himself to sleep. possibly also drinking himself to sleep.

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            I think he uses and constantly references the fact he doesn’t drink to cover up or justify his use of other “legal” prescription substances like amphetamines in his own mind.

            I could be wrong, but I think the whole “I’m straight-edge” act is total bullshit, and stems from his superiority complex.

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              I suspect if he’s not actually using substances for anything, it’s because he ignored his doctor’s warnings and nearly died because of it.

              Vis a vis, alcohol, his liver is probably shot to hell. He’s simply got too many other habits that are adjacent to drugs and alcohol to have never had any.

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                He’s definitely done a ton of coke. Pretty sure all assistants have confirmed that from back in the apprentice.

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            People lose weight from stress? How lucky of them, I gain weight from stress. Double bad.

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      With every ridiculous thing he’s done, I’d forgotten about him throwing food at the wall. Thanks for the reminder! I needed a good laugh!

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      Intentionally choosing the Kubrick stare because he thinks it makes him look innocent says a lot about the characters he sympathizes with and it’s kind of terrifying.

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    Negative turnout is going to be a huge deciding factor in this election. Can’t win the nomination without Trump, can’t win an election with him.

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    And the two people leading the polls behind him are basically trying to do their best impression of him. So that’s great.