I'd outlaw sauce bottles which make getting it all out harder, especially the ones which don't have the opening at the bottom and make it impossible to put the bottle with the opening facing downwards.

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    This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but my answer is bicycles. They slow traffic, cause a driving hazard as cars dodge them, and bike lanes take up space that could be used as an additional lane of travel for cars. Some cities around the world are laid out so that bike travel works; American cities are not.

    Bikes are great for exercise and should be allowed on tracks and off-road. No vehicle that cannot maintain the speed limit should be allowed on public roads, though. Bicycles should be for exercise, not transportation.

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      As a Dutchman i have to say you are insane and need to be admitted to a psych ward/s

      Bicycles are not only healthier and more renewable but also safer.

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        Here in the US, traveling by bike is significantly more dangerous than traveling by car. They'll designated a non protected shoulder of a 55 mph road as a "bike lane". It's ludicrously dangerous and ridiculous and I refuse to bike in them, opting for the sidewalk instead. Commuting by bike is not safe here. I'd like to see bike lanes here in the US that are divided from the rest of the road via a physical barrier. I've only seen that on one occasion and I wish we had more of that here.

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          Entirely depends where. I'm my US city cycling is by far the fastest and most inexpensive transportation option and the whole route is bike lanes and paths. The very best traffic day would be as fast by car but that never happens and would cost me more than $500/month. Train takes 70% longer.

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            Where at? I'd love to see protected bike lanes in my city but unfortunately we do not have that.

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              Boston area. It's far from perfect here, but has been improving rapidly. Cambridge and Somerville especially, which are part of the contiguous urban area. I've had bicycle congestion at some intersections, with ~30 other bikes at a light. Downtown Boston has many fewer riders but a fair number.

              My 7 mile commute is about 75% segregated paths, most of the rest in a lane beside motor traffic.

              Unfortunately the general Boston ethos is that rules are a curiosity, not given much thought, even when formulating them. So riding the segregated lanes is a frustrating exercise in avoiding pedestrians who are allergic to the footpaths, drivers turning across you into drives and side streets, etc… A lot of drivers don't even believe that they are supposed to yield when crossing a bike lane and will even argue things like "I had a green light [therefore I didn't have to yield when turning across your path even though you also had a green light]"

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      You right. That's a pretty spicy opinion. How's about we ban cars inside city limits? Self-powered vehicles and mass transit only.

      Edit: can->ban, though it does kinda still work.

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      I actually believe personal use cars should be banned completely (so not affecting ambulances, taxis, public transport and so on). I don't think it's a silly inconvinient topic though. I spend 20 minutes commuting to work by bike, by a car or a bus it can be even over an hour, due to how inefficient that type of transit is (not to mention it's ecological and health issues).

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        Glad you live and work in a place where biking is a viable option, but it’s the complete opposite for me. It takes me 20 minutes to drive to work on a route that would take three hours by bike just because of the sheer distance, and there simply are no bus routes out to where I live. Not saying we should stop advocating for better mass transit and bike-friendly urban planning, but just bear in mind your situation is not representative of everyone else’s.

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          I don't have other options. It's frequently dangerous and very exhausting as it's a hill-ridden area, but due to the amount of personal use cars, commuting by a bus goes from 20-30 minutes to over an hour as personal use cars create massive traffic. I think it should be mandated for there to be adequate long, mid and short distance public transport with adequate bike lanes and they should also add e-vehicle lanes for e-bikes and so on, since they're very dangerous on bike lanes from my experience. Banning cars is not an overnight feat, but it would resolve many issues. Of course, alongside it housing and remote work issues should need being resolved, to both provide people option not to live near work and to even be able to live near work. There is no simple issues with simple solutions when it comes to society and its planning.

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          I think the point is, it'd benefit everyone to work TOWARDS this thing being a reality for almost everyone. Just because it isn't doesn't mean it can't be.

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          20 minutes to drive to work on a route that would take three hours by bike

          Uphill both ways? 3 hours riding is 36 miles if you're taking it very slow.

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          Gawd I would kill to bike to work when I’m not WFH. But I’m in the same situation as you, the timings work out about the same (my bike timings are only 1hr30 each way) but that’s an extra MULTIPLE HOURS I don’t get to be home with my cats and partner. Then I imagine how much earlier I’d have to get up… Absolutely untenable.

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        I think realistically you'd have to limit the ban to cities only, at least in the states. We're just too big to not have ANY personal automobiles. There may come a day that changes, but until we're entirely connected by rail or something similar, it's just not a reality.

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        By your argument, people should not be allowed to live in rural areas. I'm going to use myself as an example. It's about 10 minutes to the nearest grocery store, and a 35 minute drive to the nearest hardware store that carries lumber and sheet goods. Let's say I'm doing improvements on my workshop and I need 20 4x8ft sheets of plywood. I would drive to the store in my full-sized pickup truck, load up the materials I need, and drive them home. On the way back I'm dodging cyclists on my small country road, and the log trucks are driving right down the center of the road because if they stay in their lane, they'll run over a pair of cyclists side by side who are out for a leisurely ride.

        What's the alternative when personal automobiles are banned? Should public transit carry all my building materials for me? The cyclists on the road I live on are less inconvenienced by my truck and the log haulers, but at the expense of the people who live here. How do I get my groceries? How do I get to work?

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      I gather that you haven't ever watched NotJustBikes on YouTube or City Beautiful or "Oh the Urbanity" or "Life Where I'm from" or "Nimesh in Los Angeles" or any of the hundreds of other channels? Please pick one (or many) and watch a few videos. There's so much to learn that you are missing out.

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        You mentioned youtube channels with "urban" and "city" in the name. I hate cities. I hate the filth, the graffiti, the constant barrage of people invading your personal space, the endless rows of concrete and steel buildings covering what used to be nature. America is a beautiful country that still has plenty of rural areas that people like me can call home. For people like me, cars are a necessity.

        As far as cities go, I strongly believe that part of problem with traffic congestion is a lack of space for automobiles. Remove the bike lanes, remove the sidewalks, and convert them into extra lanes of travel for cars.

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          Stay away from the cities if you hate them so much! Let the people who live in them have the bikes, busses, trains and the like. Problem solved! Everyone's happy, it's a win win actually.

          You've mentioned in another comment that cyclists make your rural life inconvenient. It's same with cities, your car's presence makes city dwellers' lives inconvenient. Are you willing to have a compromise that cyclists will not use the rural roads as long as you don't drive on city roads (I am only suggesting this because you wanted cyclists off the road)?

          I also have to point out that you really speak like a guy who haven't watched any of the channels I mentioned. The problems you mentioned have been already solved elsewhere.

          As far as cities go, strongly believe that part of problem with traffic congestion is a lack of space for automobiles.

          Your belief doesn't align with data. It's been shown time and time again that no matter how many lanes you add, congestion levels always return to original levels. On the other hand, when lanes are dedicated to buses and trams, congestion is reduced. But you must have known this already if you've watched NotJustBikes' video titled "The best country in the world for drivers"

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      Guys, poster above is just answering the question as posed! They are wrong of course, but the downvote button is for non-constructive contributions, not for disagreement 😊!