As Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo was visiting China earlier this week, a sea-green Chinese smartphone was quietly launched online.

It was no normal gadget. And its launch has sparked hushed concern in Washington that U.S. sanctions have failed to prevent China from making a key technological advance. Such a development would seem to fulfill warnings from U.S. chipmakers that sanctions wouldn’t stop China, but would spur it to redouble efforts to build alternatives to U.S. technology.

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    If we pay China and Taiwan to manufacture all of our stuff they probably don’t even need to buy it from us as they can easily just copy it.

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      It’s absolutely bizarre that you grouped Taiwan and China together in this sentiment.

      Taiwan being a silicon powerhouse is literally part of a deliberate strategy by western nations, especially the US, to combat Chinese manufacturing. They were supplied with science and technology. They have the license agreements. They’re one of the cadre of nations that are currently waving protectionist flags against the “threat” of Chinese manufacturing.

      It’d be like putting the Dutch in the list. Except even weirder, because there is not any semblance of abnormal diplomacy/hostility between Amsterdam and Beijing.

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        So you don’t believe that Communist China could possibly get away with espionage against ethinic and cultural Chinese Taiwan?

        Interesting.

        You also don’t appear to consider the clear intention of Communist China’s plans to annex Taiwan.

        Also interesting. Do you know the history behind the creation of Taiwan? If there was a “clear plan”, I would say it was ill conceived.

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          Are you legitimately saying that we should treat Taiwan as the same as China just because its citizens are the same race? Jesus fucking christ, dude. Take a deep breath, look in the mirror, and reconsider that racist ass position.

          Straight up Tankie shit, the rest.

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            No, but the fact you think that is telling. I’m saying it’s a wholevlot easier for Chinese to spy on Chinese. Just like it’s easier for Americans to spy on Americans.

            How did you come to the conclusion I’m Communist out of that? Again, your assumptions are telling. Spend some time with a mirror.

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              Ah, who else does that logic apply to? We should treat South Korea the same as DPRK because they’re all Korean, right? It’s easy for Koreans to spy on other Koreans since they’re all the same. And DPRK intends to one day annex South Korea! Ditto for Ukraine and Russia. I bet we can do a lot of these, where we racially categorize nations based on western cultural ideas that have nothing to do with local political conditions and declare them to be the same.

              Fuck allll the way off you fucking racist fuck.

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                Are straw men all you have? When did I say we should treat Taiwan the same as China? I said they are the same culture and history. The same situation exists for Korea.

                Anyway, you are just looking for a fight, so I’m disengaging since nothing I say will change your understanding of what I said.

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          Do you know the history behind the creation of Taiwan?

          Yes, the creation of Taiwan… in 1624. Or, if you want to talk about the China’s history of Taiwan, then it’s 1945.

          In either case, way too fucking far back to have any sort of diplomatic weight in a conversation, except as an excuse for racism.

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            Where does the racism enter the picture? This is about the civil war in China, in which the non-communists were driven out to Taiwan in 1949.

            The Communists took the mainland and intend to finally destroy their enemies.kind of the way north Korea wants to take over south Korea.

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        I’m simply referring to things like this, which I believe (but can’t really prove, so I could be wrong) happens more often than we’d like.

        I’m probably wrong. I’m not claiming to be an expert, and I’m not trying to equate Taiwan with China.