I have a Jellyfin server, NextCloud instance, etc that I share with friends and family. Currently, I serve them over the open-internet using Cloudflare tunnels. Obviously this has some security implications that I don’t love. Also recently one of my domains got flagged as malicious by google and now Chrome browsers won’t go to the site - annoying.
I use Tailscale already to access my server infra remotely, but honestly I don’t see this as a viable option for my non-technical friends and family. Plus, I need to support all kinds of devices like smart tvs. How do you fine folks deal with this issue?
You don’t. Unless you want your hobby to turn into a 24/7 support job.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters DNS Domain Name Service/System HTTP Hypertext Transfer Protocol, the Web IP Internet Protocol Plex Brand of media server package SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption SSO Single Sign-On TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL nginx Popular HTTP server
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I share my Home Assistant with family, Nextcloud and Jellyfin with family and friends and websites/blog with the entire world.
I do it with a domain and a subdomain for each service. Each website/service has it’s own Let’s Encrypt SSL cert managed by Traefik. So all the family members and friends need is the URL and usernames and passwords. Like any other service. I don’t know what you did to become flagged as malicious by Google, but my services have run for years without such an issue. So maybe it’s just time to switch to a different domain name?
I don’t know what you did to become flagged as malicious by Google
My dynamic public IP recently got flagged by Google and it wouldn’t allow logins to any Google accounts coming from my home, even with multiple correct authentication factors. We could connect though the data plan on our phones without a problem because they got (other) IPs from the mobile carrier, but not through the home ISP. We got security emails asking “is this you?” but confirming did nothing. It went away only when the ISP cycled to another of their public ranges.
Might be way off here but have you checked if you actually got hacked and they just didn’t destroy anything?
I would entertain the possibility if there was any sign, or if I knew how Google takes these decisions.
Honestly, I would just take this as an indicator of something fishy going on. Either google crawled your ip and found things it didn’t like or stuff came out of it to google. Either a scripted action (which looks malicious from the outside) or advertising emails. Your logs should at least tell you if there have been any suspicious logins on any of the exposed services.
That’s the thing, the only thing I have open to the Internet is a port forwarded SSH with non-root key authentication, into an up-to-date Debian stable. The logs show no attempts. The odds of someone breaking into public key OpenSSH and getting root, with daily security updates, are rather slim IMHO. The router is also an attack surface but it runs up to date OpenWRT.
In this case I‘m out of ideas. :) but thanks for elaborating. I appreciate it.
No problem, you made a good point.
In any case, my main beef was that relying solely on IP is a pretty shitty way to deal with this on Google’s part. They make you jump through hoops and establish over half a dozen ways of proving who you are (user & password, secret question & answer, secondary emails, OTP codes, secondary auth codes, phone SMS, phone confirmation – which are behind phone unlock) and none of that matters when they don’t like your current IP? Then what are they for?
In regards to media server, may want to go with Plex over Jellyfin as you will find it much easier for those users who are not as technical and will offer support to far more devices which sounds like what you are looking for.
I don’t think that holds true anymore nowadays.
They added so much bloat to Plex that I constantly got asked where is X and do I need to pay for Y? When they started mixing online content with local libraries in all apps things got annoying because my older family members could not differentiate between them. Since there’s no server setting for this but only app settings I had to disable them for every device they use. Rinse and repeat every few months when they added another shitty service nobody asked for.
This and that I couldn’t access my library without internet connection were the things that drove me to Jellyfin.
