• ThatWeirdGuy1001@sh.itjust.works
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      “The allies were too aggressive against the Nazis it really put me off”

      This is what all these bullshit arguments sound like to me.

      You have one side wanting to violate the humans rights and privacy of a marginalized group. The other side either wants to help this group or at bare minimum ignore them and let them live peacefully. One of these is aggressive. The other is just basic fucking decency.

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        The allies were too aggressive against the Nazis it really put me off"

        Here we are again with the Godwin law :)

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          Not really. We’re talking about a marginalized group having their rights violated. It’s not my fault the most famous modern example of this that happened less than a century ago is Nazi Germany.

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            But conservatives aren’t “Nazi Germany” and trans aren’t Jews in Dachau.
            That comparison of yours was bad taste, to say the least.

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              Now imagine if the Nazis were never able to get that far because the rest of the citizens started fighting for the Jews?

              That’s how it’s similar. No trans people aren’t taking trains yet

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                  It’s not subjunctive it’s a fuckin metaphor.

                  We have a chance to stop the Nazis in this situation before they even become full power Nazis.

                  I’m using a historical event as a reference point for what happens when a marginalized group is openly oppressed and no one does anything about it. The oppressor becomes emboldened by the lack of response and takes it as a sign that they’re not in the wrong.

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                    Now imagine if

                    Looks like a subjunctive mood.

                    The oppressor becomes emboldened by the lack of response and takes it as a sign that they’re not in the wrong.

                    And that’s why you want to be so aggressive toward centrists?

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              Sorry, when you have GOP politicians and mouthpieces, PROMINENT ones at that, stating that their goal is the “eradication” of transgenderism as a concept, it gets a LOT easier to see where we would make a comparison to the Holocaust.

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                  How? Guess who the nazis killed? Transpeople. Guess who cheers for all these anti trans laws and candiadates? Actual factual nazis? Guess why? Because they are against transpeople and those are the candidates who are the closest to their political view. Of cause not everything leeds to the holocaust but nazis sure did and they support thoses candidates.