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    11 months ago

    And of course, the next logical step is to leak gigabytes of secret and sensitive information.

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      …Leaked to a reputable member of the fourth estate to decide what was safe to report. Do you disagree with the founders of the United States about the importance of the fourth estate’s role in keeping leadership honest?

      The only other steps short of that would have been to either quit and shut the fuck up or continue participating and shut the fuck up.

      Sounds like you just wanted him to shut the fuck up about your freedoms being eroded by the government that’s supposed to protect them.

      I don’t believe willful ignorance is a defensible position, ever.

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      It very much is, if the offense is egregious. And the NSA spying on everyone and their employees trading nudes the NSA collected very much is egregious. And to make it sound like he just dumped the raw leaks does not make your argument seem more credible.

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        Or, you know, he could have talked to journalists without such security breach.

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          The security breach was the NSA letting anyone fiddle with the data. They should be thankful Snowden leaked them instead of a foreign intelligence service listening in for years unnoticed.

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            Yeah… It honestly just made clear how damn inept everyone involved is and has been for a very long time…

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            Except it’s exactly what David Grusch did, with no proof, and yet we have multiple oversight hearings and amendments to the defense authorization, and he made international news

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              Lol… He gave the egregious “secret data” that Americans fully deserved to know about to a fucking journalist (Glenn Greenwald)

              So, I disagree.

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                  I think we can all agree that Greenwald is an idiot.

                  IMO Snowden probably chose him because a. he wrote for The Guardian, b. he was publically critical of the Iraq war and c. he is politically on the right.

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      You’re getting downvoted for stating what Snowden out for what he is – a Kremlin operative traitor.

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        He had no other choice. Russia was not his first goal to find refuge in. But germany and other countries did not take him in.

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          No one wants to take in a criminal. No one, except war criminal Putin, of course.

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          Because taking in a compromised Russian operative is a bad idea