Climate is fucked, animals continue to go extinct even more, our money will be worth nothing the coming years… What motivation do I even have to care to keep going? The world is ran and basically owned by corrupt rich people, there’s poverty, war, etc. It makes me sick to my stomach the way to world is. So I ask, why bother anymore?

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    @yuunikki please schedule an appointment with a therapist because you are demonstrating signs of depression in your post/comment history. The internet is not qualified to be your therapist.

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        Talk to therapists and find a hobby. Do whatever you want. If you think something is meaningless but you like doing it. Do it. Try to live a life that bothers others the least. Help others if they ask for help.

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        I felt the same way, a therapist couldn’t help me either, since I was just looking at the world realistically… It helped me to consume less news and to concentrate on my immediate environment, where I actually mean my actions can change something. For me it’s mainly family, but of course it can also be a hobby or voluntary work, for example.

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            I did not know. I just read the story in the Wikipedia article, sounds really interesting. I also realized that compared to the time when this is set, our time is really relaxed. If you live in the western world and ignore climate change…

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        Maybe now you think they don’t work, but I tell you from my personal experience they will.

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    I have been following the advice of Waymond in everything everywhere all at once: be kind

    I think that’s our main job while everything doesn’t make sense.

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    The point is your gained wisdom through experience. That’s what the old people always tried to tell us.

    Are you going to solve any of those problems? No. Are you going to be able to join some organization or movement that solves them? Probably no. Will you be able to affect any change that the world will take notice of? Probably not.

    But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be a part of it. Not everything that has value makes meaningful changes on the world. There was a French artist, Marcel Duchamps, who once exhibited a urinal. This was clearly not an attempt to move art in any direction, or change public perception, he was kinda just being an asshole. But it had that effect anyway. People still get pissy about it, in the form of, “Is it art?” conversations. Is it? Doesn’t matter. It was a low effort one-off idea that has lasted for decades.

    Life isn’t actually a race to see how much you can achieve. And if it was that, then it wouldn’t be measured by money. It wouldn’t be measured by “legacy,” the way we use that word for rich people and sports stars. If it really was a contest, then it would be based on how much good you can manage in the face of constant depressive onslaught.

    The world has never seemed like it has a point to most people. But they try their best, and they make meaningful impact on the lives of others, often without intention or even knowledge of having done so .

    One of my most influential people has no idea that he did anything. He’s around somewhere, although I haven’t seen him for 20 years. All he did was treat me like a person when I was a dumb teenager (not to say all teenagers are dumb, but I was). It really wasn’t much. But I hadn’t been treated that way before, so to me it’s influential because it was something he did that he didn’t have to do.

    That guy is not going to be lying on his deathbed thinking, “At least I was a good influence on scared of planes.” For all I know, he doesn’t remember me. Doesn’t matter. He spread some good into the world. That’s your job. That’s your point.

    Just be a better you tomorrow than you are today, as many days as you can manage. Know that no one does that every day. And you’ll live a meaningful life that maybe has influence. Your legacy is you.

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      Well said. I would also add that for me, stopping my consumption of news has dramatically increased my happiness. The news outlets only spread negative fear mongering bs. Most of it you can’t change. I stopped consuming negative media and its helped a ton.

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      I really love what you have said here.

      At the risk of being a dick I wanna make one point though. When Marcel Duchamp submitted “Fountain” aka a urinal, for an exhibition, he wasn’t just being an asshole.

      He’d joined the Dada movement and they really were unhappy with the status quo after the horrors of war. They held lots of public meetings, protest demonstrations, published art criticism etc, trying to change it.

      But this kind of makes it even more supportive of your point. He was just one guy, part of something he believed in, and somehow his small act with the urinal had a huge legacy.

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    Because you’re human and that’s what we do. There has been and always will be problems that exist beyond our control. What has made humanity unique is its ability to overcome or adapt to conflict.

    You’re having what’s called an Existential Crisis where you question what the point of any of it is at all. Be it during the crisis we’re currently enduring or be it in a time of great peace and splendor, there very likely is no point to any of this.

    Don’t allow the world to inflict unnecessary burden upon you. Find and focus on your inner peace.

    If you want to find a purpose, be a good, genuine, and kind individual. Bring joy to others.

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      salute Well said! Turn down the noise and focus on the moment. It is possible to overdose on news.

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    While climate is new, corruption among ruling classes is a story as old as civilization.

    Was living ever motivated?

    Well, one of the differences between now and then is the access to bad information.

    If you were living in a village and a village far away from you was all killed off, maybe you’d hear about it eventually.

    Today, you’d be able to see photos the same day.

    So online access is overstimulating your “wow this is screwed” circuitry in ways you wouldn’t have experienced decades, centuries, millennia ago.

    Maybe a bit of a break from online news would be helpful.

    The world has always sucked and had issues. But you were just way less likely to be constantly aware of it.

    If anything, the past few years show some incredible promise for things changing in terms of corruption among ruling classes, even if the climate is long term going to completely screw us.

    But humanity was never going to last forever, and whether or not you are part of the last hurrah for the species shouldn’t necessarily detract from your experience in the here and now of it.

    Find your own meaning and path on a relative basis, and be less caught up in existential dread, especially given there’s little benefit to absorbing yourself in the latter.

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        I don’t think many people like this. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Not everyone should know this. Many will try and destroy everything just because there is no point to anything. End and beginning has no meaning. It’s just the journey, that matters to ME.

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    While I see the world with same problematic lenses I draw a different conclusion.

    If nothing matters why not remove buts from life!

    Travel the world. Eat things that are not healthy. Take a simple job because no point chasing the future. Help out other people. Test all the hobbies you want but afraid of.

    The world is fucked but it doesn’t mean your life have to be fucked.

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    Same reason people have gone on for a million years. Noe of that matters or is really as bad as it sound at an individual level. Individually you have it better now than at any point in history, asking why ‘you’ should go on because of the unknown future effects of the climate crisis (which is real enough, and shouldn’t be understated) sounds more like depression than a valid outlook that people should have considering actual world events.

    Even the worst off people on earth, on average, are better off now than they were 1000s or even 100s of years ago. There have always been poverty, starvation, wars, rich taking advantage of the poor, and fewer safeguards or oversight on top of that.

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    "It is no measure of good health to be well adjusted in a profoundly sick society " - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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    All we can do is be nice and try to have fun. Take days off, don’t work beyond the hours you’re required to. If a boss gives you shit about it, let them have their little fit and ignore them.

    Life ain’t about work. It’s not about Instagram, Facebook, or any of that pointless bullshit. Find things you like to do, even if the interest is initially mixed, and give them a try. Buy old video games and books. Buy a Raspberry Pi and make something. Buy some pencils and a pad and draw random shit, even if it’s a bunch of 5 second drawings. Turn it into a challenge where you draw 3 things from the world around you daily. Go take walks and don’t think. Just look at birds, animals, trees.

    Fuck the US government, politicians, pundits, any of the people that leech off of our emotions. They are not worth our time and the manufactured outrage they shovel on us everyday is not worth our time. Ignore social media and the dumb shit celebrities say. Turn the TV and the news off.

    Want to help the environment in an immediate way? Go pick up trash in a neighborhood. No one else doing it? Go by yourself or start up a group.

    Just do anything other than plugging into every news pipeline that is an onslaught of mentally-taxing bullshit that you can’t change. If it’s out of your control, it’s not worth worrying about.

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    The world is pretty fucked up, it always has been and so it will continue to be.
    And none of it really matters either, it’s all just a tiny flash of light in the darkness that will soon fade away to nothing.

    However, here we are, living in a beautiful planet that was blessed with life, so many different plants and animals, sounds, smells and tastes, music and art, being able to talk with others, laugh, cry, love. We’re only microscopic creatures that live on the tiniest spec of dust imaginable, but to our tiny eyes there is plenty of beauty to be found. And for as long as we are able to see that beauty, there is a point to it for us, we can try our best to enjoy what we have for the little time that we have it, before we finally become one with the universe.

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    I still have hobbies and people I wanna keep happy ^^ If there is any hope, giving up closes any and all possibilities. Be the best you can be, until the we know the final resolution.