“We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not.”
That’s gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I’ve heard in a while.
We hope that shooting ourselves in the foot today will allow us to run faster in the years to come…
Expecting either US political party to drop its support for Israel is a fool’s game.
Seriously these fucking morons are going to assist the guy who wants a “complete and total ban on Muslim entering our country…” because they don’t like Biden’s support for Israel? I understand this is a no win situation but given the choice who’s going to be better for Muslims domestically or abroad? Clearly the dem. And on that point I wonder if they think trump would have behaved any differently toward Israel? Spoiler alert.
They have a point though, neither d nor r is going to be “good” for Muslims or Palestinians, our track record sorta proves that out.
Seriously these fucking morons are going to assist the guy who wants a “complete and total ban on Muslim entering our country…” because they don’t like Biden’s support for Israel?
Maybe they figure that when Trump was supporting his Muslim ban, they had one major party on their side.
Instead of zero parties on their side and one party gloating that they have no choice.
I see this kind of thinking often, with regards to young voters, black voters, blue collar workers, immigrants, women, etc.
‘We’ve checked with the experts and determined that they should be grateful! Why won’t they adjust their lived experience to match our policy platform!!’
It doesn’t matter whether you agree with them. They’re leveraging power. You are free to disregard them if you think your personal narratives are enough to keep you comfort after Trump wins.
If Biden and his supporters want to win, they need to stop arguing with their voters and start listening. It’s not that complicated.
Democrats feel entitled to votes from their base are are offended at the idea they might have to earn their vote. They blackmail us with Republicans and victim blame when their bad electoral strategy fails them
This isn’t unique to Democrats, it’s a feature of the left in general. Democrats aren’t bending over backwards to get progressive votes, but progressives aren’t bending over backwards to get moderate votes either. If a Democrat loses, moderates blame Progressives for not showing up. If a progressive loses, progressives blame moderates and the establishment.
I mean how many progressives criticize Bernie’s electoral strategy instead of blaming the DNC? Bernie completely wrote off Florida and Cuban Americans instead of trying to win them over. He aimed for 40% of the vote in the primaries. And he relied on non voters to win.
Democrats and progressives BOTH prefer to bicker with each other and make no efforts to court each other’s base. They’d rather blame each other than critique their electoral strategy. And when fascists rise to power because of this bickering, both will blame each other again.
Bernie completely wrote off Florida and Cuban Americans instead of trying to win them over.
And just like that, candidates are expected to win votes.
This implies their voters are speaking in a unified voice. They’re not. Subsets are, closer to it, but overall, politics is about compromise and consensus.
If you want the power of dominion, go for a monarchy, and if you don’t want to compromise at all, go to war. When it comes time for peace again, it’ll be some manner of compromise.
I tried asking that question on a post somewhere around here and they pretty much responded like I was the biggest moron who had to be spoken down to.
Because in bizarro world a ban is worse than ethnic cleansing.
Ban + more ethnic cleansing > no ban + less ethnic cleansing
It’s utterly disingenuous to suggest the two are mutually exclusive. The ethnic cleaning only intensifies under Trump, and the ban is in addition to that. Unless we’re in a bizarre world where Trump suddenly loves brown people and Palestinians.
Speculating while ignoring genocide. BlueMAGA is toxic as fuck
Gee I wonder why you guys have practically no meaningful political presence in reality. Maybe if you tell me more about how much I love genocide, I’ll see the purity in your idealistic views and decide to support your cause instead.
Of course, I could fire back that you want dead Palestinian babies since you refuse to go against the most deadly option – but that would be as utterly disingenuous as writing off all Biden supporters as genocide supporters.
The funniest thing about this comment is that it could be easily directed at you as well.
Biden allowing their death is the most deadly option. Do you people even hear yourself? I couldn’t give a fuck if you support us or not, which is preferred since liberals tend to co-opt movements and try to redirect the energy to neoliberalism.
Personally I think a Republican actively killing them would be the most deadly option. I’m curious though why you think Biden would result in more Palestinian deaths than any Republican candidate.
Then again not like the “very shoot ourselves in the foot, but just little bit, instead of lot” on decades long repeat leads to anything good.
If ones vote is to be taken for granted, you have no power. Only way you can hold your own side accountable is by threatening to withhold the vote.
That is bargaining. Voting Democrat nomatter what and after that asking could they please do something, that is begging. Begging rarely works as well as bargaining.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Joys of two party system.
Most likely people just get apathy and instead of flipping to Trump, they simply stay home. Which is the other bargain. What you offer for me to bother to go from my home to the voting station in the first place.
That is their play “you can’t take us for granted anymore, we care about our vote and bargaining power on long term enough to suffer on short term to buy long term relevance”.
Whether it works is different matter. I don’t know, if democratic leadership has the where with all to take their left flank of voters as anything but given serval supporters to be kept in line with “but we are only little bit bad, those guys are really really bad”.
Didn’t Trump have a travel ban on Muslims at one point?
Edit: yep, he did
that was like the first thing he did
His reckless nepotism foreign policy is also the reasons that Hamas attacked and Palestians are dying right now.
Palestinians are dying because Genocide Joe is giving bombs to the IDF please stop twisting reality to fit your world views.
So what, you support the billions in arms sales to Saudi Arabia to try to normalize relations without any movement on Palestinian rights? The announcement of the Abraham accords was when Hamas started planning this attack.
Of course not. Saudi is an American dog state bowing to money. MBS has no morals.
The one Saudi king (Faisal) that tried to help Palestine got assassinated by his cousin that was an American drone.
They responded to this unoriginal take in TV interviews a while ago.
What did they say?
Ah, yes, “recalibrate” to a dictatorship. Republicans LOVE muslims!
Trump will “recalibrate” their citizenship and country of residency. These dudes need to wake up
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If they succeed in electing Trump, Democrats won’t need to reflect about anything because they won’t be allowed to run for office anymore.
But the Anti-Biden folks will be able to tell the next generation that they “stood up for their own ideals!” Sure, they won’t have prevented any genocide, and they will have put the party into power that is currently trying to set up a fascist theocracy, but they can go to sleep knowing they have personal integrity!
/s
The other side of this being someone saying “we’re not going to legislate anything that will help you, and fuck you for asking, but vote for us because we won’t actively genocide you” which is not really a great selling point but yeah at least we’re avoiding the worse stuff.
It’s a bit ironic that it’s always “Vote for Democrats or democracy dies” when that setup is inherently undemocratic, since your vote can’t go anywhere but the single choice that lets you still have a vote
It’s a sucky system, for sure, but we have zero chance to fix it by sprinting towards Fascism.
And perhaps it’s ultimately a lost cause, but given the demographic shift of Millennials and Gen Z, I think it’s far from a foregone conclusion.
Please go look up the political compass. Both parties are fascist.
Yeah, sorry. You’re going to have to give me a source for that claim.
It’s this dumbass forum of 14 year olds called /politicalcompass where a bunch of high schoolers with no life experience try to discuss complex issues through the lens of a four-sided charicature of political ideologies that they call the political compass. It’s total horseshit and the meme has been coopted by actual fascists.
I actually found one source (might have been the same place), and it “analyzes” Biden and Trump from 2020 based on their past policy stances and public statements; it shows Biden and Trump practically overlapping. This is based on some 62 questions they ask community members.
If someone honestly thinks that’s a reasonable analysis of past and especially current stances, I weep for the state of skepticism and rational thought.
As a sidenote, if we look at the polling data the way it should be seen, it’s interesting that those people are so far left that they feel like Biden and Trump are overlapping.
This is exactly what I thought when I read that. What kind of “recalibrating” do they think they’re going to get to do with a christian fascist lording over the country?
I can’t help but have conspiracy theory thoughts, like this is some kind of conservative campaign. It’s hard to rule anything out anymore, and the idea of muslims voting for trump is just that fucking stupid.
Or you could actually hear them out rather than discredit them. Biden is killing their families in mass right now. You want them to think about how Trump might hurt them later? Which is actually happening now? Does making Biden think he will win encourage him to stop participating in the war crimes that he’s being referred to the ICC for?
This is how democracies die.
Wtf are you even talking about? This is the dumbest take of the day by far.
Idiots.
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If Democrats don’t try to get them back, they won’t get them back.
If you’re one election cycle away from collapse, you’re already dead.
It’s notable that the Republicans have not attempted to court the pro Palestinian voters in reaction to the anger at Biden. Because they are if anything more pro Israel / anti Palestine than the Democrats.
I agree that the Dems are the “only slightly better” party in a few aspects, and they need to do better. But slightly better is still better than the alternative and we need to vote like it.
I use a taxi analogy often when it comes to issues like this. You’re on 8th Street and want to get to 1st Street. There are two taxis in front of you a Blue Taxi and a Red Taxi. The Blue Taxi will take you to 4th Street. The Red Taxi will take you to 21st Street before beating you up and leaving you for dead in the gutter.
Which taxi do you take?
Note: “Neither” isn’t an option because if you don’t choose, then some random people choose for you and shove you in the taxi.
Yes, neither taxi takes you to your destination, but the Blue taxi is a lot easier to recover from and reach your destination than the Red taxi.
Would it be better if you had a taxi that took you to your exact destination? Definitely, but this is where realism meets idealism. In the real world, you rarely have perfect options. You often need to decide which option is closest to perfect for you. In this case, the Democrats/Blue taxi are flawed but are worlds better than the Republicans/Red taxi.
This exceedingly simple logic seems beyond a good portion of the US population.
Blue taxi runs out of gas halfway there because the red taxi siphoned it out for their own use.
Yet in a state where you WILL be shoved in a blue or red taxi no matter what (say, CA for blue), you could vote for a green taxi stand to be put there so at least next time there are more options - or at least the blue taxi will deliver you to 3rd street.
The problem is that the blue taxi only promises to take you to 4th. When you get in, it just sits there. When you ask the driver why he’s not moving, he insists that he is and tells you that you must be from the other cab company. If you try to get out and walk, he screams at you. As long as you’re in the cab and not perfectly silent about wanting to get any closer to your destination, the driver screams at you. Eventually the driver gets mad if you’re not smiling.
Not great, sure, but I still have all my teeth.
With blue taxis, you could run for driver. With red taxis, you get what you get.
Slightly better?
Here’s a GOP calling for death to all Palestinians.
They’re all paying for it enthusiastically. I don’t care if some posture differently personally.
The Biden administration is doing the “death to all Palestinians”.
There is no difference.
“thERe iS nO diFfERenCe”
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If you still think there is a difference then LMAO
“lmAO” 🤡
How the fuck do you figure? Is Biden at the front? Are any American soldiers bombing Palestinians? No and no.
This may come as a surprise to you, but the president of the United States is not also the president of Israel. That’s a completely different person. It’s a different country.
Yeah giving all the bombs and Intel to the israelis totally isn’t complicit.
The president of israel is the president of United States though. That much is painfully obvious.
I dunno if people know Biden’s past as a darling of the Israel lobby. Obama used to attend pro-Palestinian events and knows very well what’s going on, part of why he picked Biden was because he was disliked by the Israel lobby, and that was his way of courting them. Of course at the helm he had to go back on his views. That’s kind of the point here too, what’s in the best interest of US foreign policy is largely determined by the military industrial complex, voters don’t have a say in this really. Neither does the President in a lot of respects either, because furthering the country’s foreign policy is more about what America is to the world than what the parties are to Americans.
Given Biden’s poor polling in basically every swing state against Trump the party should really be picking a better candidate if they want a guaranteed victory in the election. I’d be doing the same as these Muslim groups if I was in the US because I’d want the Democrats to win, I don’t see a way forward for this right now without the party stepping up with some major changes. What I see instead are Democrat voters shaming potential Democrat voters in to voting instead of demanding the party do better, and yes it’s true if those people voted we wouldn’t get Trump again, but saying as much is more about validating your position than actually doing the work to get that victory. I feel like at this point Democrat voters are just going to shame people for caring about genocide and there’s no way that’s going to get them votes, probably more the opposite.
What I see instead are Democrat voters shaming potential Democrat voters in to voting instead of demanding the party do better
I mean the reality here is just that you and I want different things. I don’t want the Democrat party to “do better” in any some ways you want, and you don’t want them to “do better” in some ways I want. That’s just what being in a coalition is, and Dems are a very broad coalition
I don’t want the Democrat party to “do better” in any some ways you want, and you don’t want them to “do better” in some ways I want.
When was the last time the party did better in ways you didn’t want?
To be clear by “do better” I mean appeal to most voters, which means transferring politics that have broad support in to policies. Right now they provide policy and basically invent the politics to underlie it.
Also let’s be clear what’s being asked of Muslim voters right now, “support the fascist genocide against your people vicariously by supporting the Democrats, because the alternative will be worse.” That’s a BIG ask, that’s why it’s never addressed directly and diverted with “this is the best you can get.” To then shame those voters and blame them for worsening the situation… you’re telling them this system requires them to die one way or another. I don’t blame them one bit for taking this position.
Thank you. You said this much more nicely than I could.
These fucking idiots.
Morons.
I will never ever understand minorities that vote this way. I get people who are like me voting conservative, I don’t but I get their self-interest pov. You are literally voting for people who want you deported. They have made that crystal clear.
There was a story about a woman who voted for Trump in 2016. Her husband was then deported as an illegal immigrant. Apparently, she was shocked that the guy who campaigned repeatedly on kicking out all illegal immigrants no matter what would kick out her husband because he was an illegal immigrant.
It was a real “leopards eating my face” moment and shows just how stupid some people are.
I remember that story
Is there really a lot of difference between Evangelical Christian and Muslim? There is a lot in the middle of the venn diagram of things they hate.
Yes. If there is a theocratic takeover of the US it isn’t the evangelicals that are getting deported.
It may surprise you to learn the are more white Muslims than any other individual race. It’s a very diverse religion in America, but just over a quarter are white.
It does not surprise me since I already knew that. Not like I have Egyptian Coptic family or something
My bad, I forgot you told me that already.
This is pressure to make the Democrats better, whether by changing their stance or getting different Dems.
Would you suggest accepting that the Democrats as they are is enough to stop climate change, end wealth inequality, provide housing and healthcare, end discrimination, reform the police, etc?
Let me know how that works for you. You know after you lose the Senate and Presidency next year. Watch how fast the Supreme Court upholds a Muslim registration program over an issue of standing or by pointing out that the census already requests that information. Then we will get a second travel ban.
You are voting against your own interests.
Who says they aren’t voting Democrat when it comes down to it? They’re trying to improve their voting choice. Ffs.
This is how democracies die. Fascists don’t need a majority to win, they just need their opposition to be splintered. It’s exactly what happened in Hungary, and now it’s too late.
You might want to think long and hard about how you triage your political decisions.
It’s not a Trump campaign. It’s a DNC better pick someone else or they’re fucked campaign. And that’s true frankly regardless of my personal opinion. The dude has sacrificed too many communities to make republicans happy and now the warmongering. He destroyed his own campaign.
This is how democracies die.
Fine get deported. See if I care.
It’s pretty clear that the people who have this take, regardless of party or political affiliation, don’t care. If they did care, they would listen. People who care don’t make threats. They listen.
It isn’t a threat. If Muslims don’t vote this year the chances of the GOP taking over becomes that much higher. At which point white liberals will be able to do nothing. So what do you want? Do you want to vote for the party that you have some chance of getting what you want or the party that you have no chance of getting what you want? How is pointing out that voting for the face eating leopard party might result in your face getting eaten by leopards a threat?
Yeah that worked real well for the people that didn’t vote for Hillary because sanders that shafted by the DNC. DNC never learned their lesson and Trump winning again I doubt they will learn.
I worked for that campaign during that election cycle. You would think that the DNC and coordinated campaigns would learn that not listening to voters hurts you. Shaming them didn’t work last time either. They didn’t fund outreach. They didn’t listen to organizers on the ground. They didn’t care.
You would think that the DNC and coordinated campaigns would learn that not listening to voters hurts you.
They would rather lose than listen to voters.
DNC never learned their lesson
At this point I honestly think the lesson they’ve learned is that curb-stomping the progressives and daring them to stay at home gets us all 4 years of punishment under the GOP and in the next election they get 100% of what they wanted in the first place without any actual lefties having power.
When you remember FDR, this is exactly what they did then- FDR, scion of privilege, ran on a progressive platform for an electorate thirsty for lefty policy. He surrounded himself with other left-leaning bluebloods interested in progressive politics but dead set against actual leftists gaining power. They doled out progressive policies as political favors but strictly kept the rabble out of actual power.
Likewise, in the waning years of the Prussian Empire, Otto von Bismarck (a staunch monarchist, facing an uprising of social democracy politics he despised) famously undertook socialist-y policies like socialized medicine and old-age insurance/pensions to steal political support from the social democrats while keeping them strictly out of power.
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I could be wrong but I don’t see that happening until the GOP shatters. I see Dems traditionally as a coalition of basically not GOP voters. Just using single voter issues for this example, Let’s say we had a viable pro choice and pro gun third party, how many people from the current 2 parties would that pull from. I would wager mostly from the dem side which means larger chance of GOP winning. Which is a risk DEMs won’t take and I feel the DNC know this.
Yeah sorry these people are idiots and should be ignored. We are in a really dangerous position right now where we could still fall to fascism and need every blue vote we can.
Do they honestly think that a Republican or Trump (who banned people from Muslim countries) aren’t gonna ban them too?
They care about other people being genocided. They are not selfish pieces of shit.
How is trump gonna be better on genocide?
It’s hardly possible to do worse than Genocide Joe who is fully funded and bought by the israeli lobby AIPAC.
At worst Trump would have done the same as Biden.
Oh yeah, he was not really that bad, guy really likes the Palestinians. Are people memories really that bad? I get it, biden is not good. Do you think trump would be better?
Trump would be better or the same for the Palestinians . Biden is a 100% israel drone fully owned by AIPAC. It’s quite impossible to do worse than Biden because Genocide Joe is all-in on Genocide. They’re talking about cutting off Ukraine to continue funding the israeli genocide.
Reminder that israel had already killed more civilians than Putin did since the start of the Ukraine war. Biden is literally worse than Putin.
I love how depending on who you talk to either us controls Israel or Israel controls us. People can’t make up their mind.
Trump is the guy who moved the US embassy to Jerusalem and put bans on immigration from Muslim countries. He’s also the guy who’s talking about deporting Arabs even if they’re natural born.
Get your head out of your ass
Israel controls the US through AIPAC.
If you vote for someone who isn’t owned by AIPAC then Israel wouldn’t control the US anymore.
It’s so simple isnt it? Now go out and vote for Genocide Joe again!
It’s hardly possible to do worse
There are about a million ways to do worse.
For example, a U.S. president could send American ground troops into Gaza. Or recognize Gaza and the West Bank as Israeli territory. Or increase military aid to Israel tenfold. Or launch a preemptive military attack against Hezbollah. Or launch a ground attack against the Huthi rebels for firing rockets at Israel. Or increasing tensions with Iran for funding Hamas. Or round up suspected Hamas supporters in the U.S. and deport them. Or round up suspected Palestine supporters in the U.S. and hold them in indefinite detention. Or create a House Committee for Un-American Activities. Or bring back “enhanced interrogation” for questioning Americans suspected of un-American activities.
The possibilities are really unlimited.
This is like arguing that voting for Hitler as Reichskanzler wouldn’t be so bad, because at worst he would be doing the exact same thing as Kurt von Schleicher.
But that’s the thing: things can always get worse. And Trump has proven time and time again that he’s willing to make things worse.
America doesn’t have the money for any of that shit. They’re broke. If they had money they would have done all the things you said. America just can’t afford nor win an all out war because as soon as they get into one China takes Taiwan.
Trump doesn’t have foreign policy. He is the guy that retreated from Afghanistan btw not Genocide Joe or Obomber. As long as he can slush a few million to Mar A Lago he doesn’t give a shit what happens elsewhere.
They must want to completely lose Democracy because they aren’t getting their way. That’s what’s in the ballot. There very likely won’t BE 2028 election if Rump gets back in.
If democracy isn’t working for them, why would they vote for it? Remember, they just voted with Republicans to censure Rashida Tlaib over nothing too, and then there’s all the other stuff like student loans, the child tax credit, gaslighting people about how well the economy is going, etc.
Generally voting for democrats on the federal level just means halting or slowing down the inevitable ratchet towards fashism, not actually improving things, because there always a Lieberman or a Manchin ready to sink anything that would be too lefty.
then there’s all the other stuff like student loans, the child tax credit
I see someone isn’t following what is happening or how this works. The President, leader of the Dems, changed federal policy to forgive student loans (or at least a big chunk of them for a big chunk of the population) and it got struck down by the Supreme Court thanks to the other party. The Dems passed the child tax credit and then couldn’t get it through the house to renew it because of the other party.
Generally voting for democrats on the federal level just means halting or slowing down the inevitable ratchet towards fashism, not actually improving things
Let’s say that’s true, it’s objectively not but let’s pretend it is. Isn’t that still the obviously better option? How the fuck is fascism today better than fascism tomorrow?
Then we don’t fucking deserve it or it will be time to refresh the tree of liberty. When disenfranchised people tell you that they don’t see a difference, ask why. These folk have lost family members and are telling you that, from their perspective the only difference between having a R and a D in the White House is whether you show up to protest too.
“Refresh the Tree of Liberty”… that’s some bullshit, Trump gets into office and he’ll chop that tree down himself. Then deport all the Muslims he can. Voting R is the literal version of “chop your nose off to spite your face”.
I suspect in his analogy Trump would be watering the tree. Even if we have the political will for that, an American civil war would give our international enemies free reign. Bad times.
If you look at Democrats and Republicans and see no difference, you may want to ask yourself why a Trump presidency would be the same for you as a Biden presidency. There aren’t a whole lot of non white working class Americans who can say that.
Muslim ideology doesn’t exactly fit with democracy so it makes sense for them to embrace radical extremism. Same goes for most religions.
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These people are stupid. Short-sighted generation that can’t see past next month. They’re not going to be changing anything, just making sure worse for no reason and giving conservatives more time to get the anti-minority establishment further embedded in everyday culture.
The guy running against Biden has far worse policies with regard to Muslims. If that guy wins it “proves” America wants the worse policies, potentially causing Democrats to switch to those policies to try to win.
Luckily, this is a publicity stunt that I don’t foresee changing any actual votes.
If Biden’s stance on Israel is driving away voters, that’s just normal. This is one of those important polarizing issues, and he can’t avoid accountability, for good or bad. The death count and coverage has guaranteed that.
As for “America wants” language, that doesn’t mean anything. Different people have different goals.
Who are Zionists actually voting for? If it’s not the Democratic party, then why would he continue to be pro-Israel? Whom is he pandering to with that stance?
There are many reasons politicians might be pro war. The military industrial complex is too powerful, among other things.
for “America wants” language, that doesn’t mean anything. Different people have different goals.
Sure, it’s shorthand, but the idea is that the Democratic Party might nominate a presidential candidate who has harsher views about Muslims and Palestine, if they see those views being the reason they lost, or among the reasons they lost.
They would see that they had the “better” policies and still didn’t get the votes from the people who care most passionately about them, so their approach did not work. Maybe they go closer to the protesters view to try to get their votes, or maybe they give up on the protesters as a voting bloc since they couldn’t even get their vote when they had the “better” policies. That would entail going further away from the protesters views.
Either could happen, I don’t know the polling, but my point is that it isn’t just “we will take 4 years of Trump to make our point and make Democrats listen,” they may be taking 4 years of Trump and then proving that no one should align their policy views with theirs going forward because it hurts more than it helps.
Rationally, you have a valid point.
But I can totally understand people who can’t bring themselves to vote for someone actively supporting a genocide. Something that Trump didn’t do during his tenure in office.
Lesser of two evils only works when the distinction is clear to everyone.
Biden needs to separate himself from Israeli genocidal politics, and it seems his cabinet is trying to shift.
So in conclusion, you might consider this a publicity stunt. And maybe it is. But recent elections have shown that you can’t ignore your base, you need to fire them up to really turn them out.
So this is definitely a good move.
But I can totally understand people who can’t bring themselves to vote for someone actively supporting a genocide. Something that Trump didn’t do during his tenure in office.
Trump provided military assistance, approved arms sales, and personally vetoed a bill to end US military assistance to the Saudis in Yemen which is considered a genocide as well.
And his Israel “peace plan” was literally just giving the Israelis everything they wanted so if you’re giving him credit for Israel/Palestine actions you’re literally just giving him credit for not being the president when this happened. He absolutely would have been worse for Palestinians, he just didn’t have the power at the time.
Good thing there’s someone else running in the primary that’s polling 10 times higher than that guy.
Yup, they’re about as dumb as the Sanders or bust people.
They want change then vote/volunteer in the damn primary, volunteer to get rid of the first past the post bullshit.
Doing this, this is just 2016 levels of fucking stupid.
I was a Sanders supporter in 2016, but when Hillary got the nomination, I supported Hillary. Would I have preferred Sanders? Sure. Otherwise I wouldn’t have been a Sanders supporter. However, you don’t always get exactly what you want and you often need to deal with whatever hand life has dealt you.
In 2020, I again supported Sanders, but again switched - this time when Biden got the nomination. Same reason this time.
The people who refuse to support a candidate because they don’t think that candidate is 100% perfect aren’t seeing reality. You can’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
By refusing to lend support to a good candidate, they risk allowing a terrible one to get into office. And when Trump is in office and decides that all Muslims aren’t US citizens anymore and must be deported, will these people say “but at least we kept Biden out of office”?
2023: “We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time”
2025: “Well I never thought the GOP was going to eat MY face! There was no way I could save seen this coming”
