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Samsung phones are about 50% bloatware and 50% bad Android Software nowadays.
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Agree I have a Samsung phone and hate the damn intrusive Samsung bloatware. I’m just going to buy a Google phone next time to get Android unadulterated. Though people still have their complaints with those Pixel phones and they’re more expensive. Well at least maybe then I can tolerate my phone instead of downright loathe it.
Motorola makes unbloated android phones with stock android and their gestures are really good. But they lack in the updating department.
If its stock android, how do they add gestures??
Hey thanks for that. Did some reading and even Pixel uses a “skin” so it’s not a perfectly stock Android system. But the main thing is I want to avoid third party bloatware. Looks like Motorola does pretty well there, also inexpensive.
I am very happy with them, they are not without issues as I said they lack A LOT in the update department but I can’t live without their gestures anymore, I know they are apps now but I have been using Motorola since the Moto X Play, and I buy Motorola for my family,
Also they have one of the smaller smartphones with the Motorola Edge 30 Neo and I really appreciate it.
Also awesome battery
Had Samsungs for 10 years watching them slowly get worse and worse. Switched to a Pixel last year and couldn’t be happier.
Same, but I switched to an iPhone. It was an annoying adjustment for a few months but now I’d never go back. Great hardware, but Samsung’s software is an almost comical mess, and they seem to have zero awareness of how bad they are at it.
Same, cant stand Samsung’s bloated software not that pixel is perfect in this regard but miles better.
Just wondering because I don’t buy hardware I don’t need so I’m still using a Note 10+. Not defending a corporation at all here just genuinely want to better my choices as a consumer:
Besides the removable Samsung branded apps that I was able to just remove, have they started adding addtional bloatware with messures to restrict removal in the more recent device categories?
See a lot of bloatware being mentioned, but noones pointing to specifics. Sorry to pick your comment to reply to, seeing theres plenty. Hoping other people can chime in as well.
Here I am, on my first Samsung ever, being happy that stuff just works again. (like it did on my Huawei, long, long ago)
Ymmv.
The rule of thumb for comments like OP’s is that either they’ve last used a Samsung phone back in TouchWiz days and still think that the software and hardware are the same, or they’ve never used a Samsung phone and just hopped on the Samsung-hating bandwagon for internet points.
Either way screams of Pixel fanboyism and gatekeeping
Last Samsung I had was the Galaxy s8, it was such a piece of shit I switched to an iPhone and am never going to buy another Samsung product in my life.
I mean, phones hand so much space now. Does it matter?
I know I can root and get rid of stupid apps, but like I just downloaded sent movie or Playlist I needed for a two week trip without any issue on space on my fold 4. So… why does the extra crap layer these days.
Early days, I’d root as my phone degraded over time. Now… why bother
Young Koreans favor whatever is new and cool from year to year. One year I was there everyone had iDevices, a couple years later it was Samsungs. Trendiness with electronics is a big thing.
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I blame Apple.
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It’s crazy how people just constantly buy the latest and greatest. I can afford it, I just don’t want to. I bought a refurbished iPhone 11 like 8 months ago, works great. Bought a 2021 MacBook Pro that was refurbished, works great. Literally just purchased a refurbished gaming computer with a 2070 that gets here this week, I bet it’ll work just fine. Do most people actually NEED the latest and greatest or is it more of a fashion or financial statement?
Personally I don’t think I could handle the device whiplash that much. I use my phones and laptops until they break or become unbearable. This year, I finally bought a new MSI laptop to replace my 2013 MacBook Pro which, other than battery issues, was still going strong.
I own a lot of different kinds of devices, sure, but I spend a long time getting my phones and PCs set up just right after I get them. Going through that on a yearly basis just seems needlessly stressful, to be honest.
I’m with you 100%. I like to fine tune everything so it works perfectly, in tandem, exactly how I want and need it. I really hate changing devices even though Apple makes it quite easy. I’m sure android does too but I haven’t owned one a while so idk. My girlfriend is the same way BUT she does like to stay with more current phone models due to camera quality. She gets a lot of use out of the camera, whereas I don’t but that reasoning makes some sense to me.
I have friends that are constantly upgrading their phones on these ridiculous payment plans through their carriers and putting their MacBooks or laptops on credit just to stay up with the “latest tech.” It doesn’t make sense, must EVERYTHING be on a payment plan? If you can’t buy a device then and there with cash, and you aren’t in a dire situation where you need to replace something (you should prob consider insuring your devices) then you can wait and save. Consider refurbished as well.
Anyone with common sense prefers iPhone over stock rom Samsung.
Samsung’s software is bloated with preinstalled crap. The software is not optimized, so even new the phones have major stutters frequently.
And don’t get me started on the OTA updates. Those take a year to complete.
I love android because I can use FOSS software and I have more freedom when using it. But if I had to choose between a Galaxy and an iPhone, I’d pick the latter.
I’m 50, and I switched to an iPhone SE 2020 2 years ago, I’m never going back. It cost me 119$ and it’s worth every penny.
I’ve dealt with Samsung as the developer of a large app. They will pre-install your app on new phones if you pay them, which I think is pretty seedy. It’s also not very good for the dev because who knows if anyone will ever launch your preinstalled app. Samsung even claimed not to know. So we had no idea what we’d be paying for. Samsung’s Galaxy app store is also a totally laughable mess, far inferior to Google Play and AppStore in functionality. It even has spelling mistakes 😖
However I’ll keep doing business with Samsung. They’re just janky and it’s not surprising that users think they’re just as janky as I do.
Now Huawei…fuck Huawei. They created a big work mess for me by networking their way to a high ranking executive at our company and then telling them our app was “broken on millions of Huawei phones.” They made it sound like a bug in our code. But here’s what it actually was:
Trump banned Huawei from doing business in the US due to their ties to the Chinese Communist Party. This meant Huawei had to stop using some very core Android code libraries, since Google is an American company and couldn’t allow use of those libraries. So Huawei whipped up their own replacements to these libraries, but developers basically need to customize and republish their app specially for Huawei.
So because they got in trouble with Trump, Huawei needed all devs to rewrite their apps for Huawei phones. Instead of being honest about this, they got me in trouble, convincing an executive that something was wrong with our app. They generously offered to meet with our tech team and “help us fix it.”
I met with them, and once I understood what they were doing, I told them to get fucked. Then I wrote up a memo about what happened and let our executive leaders know that we wouldn’t be on Huawei phones ever again, going forward.
Samsung’s not THAT bad. Not even close.
I’ve used samsung for all of my smartphones until my latest (when I switched to oneplus), but it’s still an android phone. No way would I switch to ultra-locked-down apple.
Yeah I have some serious ethical issues with Apple. I’ve never bought any of their products and never will. Aside from the anti-competitive walled garden of their tech and exorbitant cost of their products, their labor practices violate human rights in low cost labor markets. However Google and their partners such as Samsung are not free from guilt either. Unfortunately there’s little choice in phone products, Android or iOS, pick your poison.
The major brands selling Android phones also lock things down, but at least I can do things like install apps outside the app store. I can also do Android development without having to buy a Mac and pay a license fee.
You have root access in pixel phone and can install custom ROMs like graphene OS.
Look at the size the 10% bar is in the 40-49 graph. Then the 6% bars in the 50-59 graph. Then look at the size of the 9% bar in the 60-69 graph. And then the Other bar (8%) in the 70+ graph.
Then go backup and look at the LG and Other bars (8% total) in the top graph. Whoever made this graphic is either intentionally misleading or just plain dumb.
Edit: The 78%, 80%, an 85% bars are also all exactly the same size. It just gets worse the longer you look at it.
Why not both
