• AmberPrince@kbin.social
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    Mom, yes. More content dunking on Libertarians please. I can’t stand those people. Their entire political worldview exists in a vacuum.

    Edit: just realized my phone autocorrected “Mmm” to “mom”. I keeping it.

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      It becomes even funnier when the example that perfectly demonstrates (American) libertarian societies is the hermitcraft Minecraft smp. A world with limitless supply, totally equal means of individual production, no constraints for expanding private property for anyone, etc. It’s literal fantasy

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        Pretty understandable from a system developed when the prevailing belief was quite literally that there will always be rich, fertile, unsettled land if you just keep going west.

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      I love how Adam Smith was literally mocking market absolutists when he coined the term “invisible hand”. Like he was mocking people who believed the market was a self regulating divine entity, and likened how they saw the market regulating itself to how god would “regulate” nature, with his “invisible hand”.

      None of these nerds ever read Adam Smith and keep using his words to support them…

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        Smith also agreed with Marx that under capitalism the wage for most labor will spiral down to the lowest amount capable of keeping a human being alive, damning the proletariat to live in filth regardless of how much wealth they’re actually able to produce. If you look at modern libertarian arguments against wealth redistribution, they all tacitly admit that the system is designed to keep an army of people fighting with one another to be the one who lives with the least. That’s what their inflation argument is, it’s an admission that no matter how much wealth labor creates, or even how much they’re allowed to keep, the cost of living under capitalism will simply rise to ensure that that amount is the new bare minimum. That’s what happened in America after WWII, it took less than one generation of unfettered capitalism to go from “one member of a family can make enough money to keep that family in relative luxury” to “between the two of us we have four jobs and we still go to bed hungry to afford our kids’ medicine”.

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          Smith was almost an anti-capitalist, but dude was too optimistic. He foresaw how things could go wrong, and how some were already going wrong, but he saw capitalism as the material manifestation of enlightenment ideals (as did most liberals) and thought in the end, when it won out, it would bring the ideals into reality.

          I’m sure if he was born a century or more later, he would be a socialist lmao.

      • My Rum is Vodka!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yup, pretty much. People do the same with other authors too, not just in economy. (Machiavelli comes to my mind.) Except that for economy you always have this bullshit in the defence of someone’s interests, that may or may not be the one babbling it.

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    I never got this: are US libertarians democrats or republican? Or both? Because we have more than 2 parties here and they have their own so to say anarchocapitalist party

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        pro-choice

        Republican

        I’m not naive enough to support the libertarian party, but you gotta choose one here lol

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          Uh so they’re having their own party, are they factually just clownish background noise or actually somewhere somehow in charge?

          I really thought they’re just a movement in one of the 2 big parties or so

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            Uh so they’re having their own party, are they factually just clownish background noise or actually somewhere somehow in charge?

            Amusingly, both. The Libertarian Party exists, but has failed to draw more than a few % of votes in basically every election it has ever participated in. I think they have won a few seats in some state congresses (maybe one or two in federal congress?) over the years.

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      Up until reading this comment I’d completey forgotten about ancaps. They used to be a big taking point on reddit. Just goes to show how irrelevant they were the entire time and how easy it is to distract from important stuff.

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    No you don’t get it the reason they put sawdust in the crackers is because of government regulation Stoopid

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    You goddamn commies don’t understand. When your kid dies from tainted baby formula, you quit buying baby formula and the company goes out of business. It regulates itself!