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    Tell me the irony isn’t lost on anyone else that this website article about users being frustrated by min maxing profits and inorganic design language is designed exactly like the kind of site that they are talking about.

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      Yep, that website is barely readable. Thank god for reader mode though

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        I originally tried posting a picture, but I think my instance dropped support for right now because of the recent attacks.

        Edit: I got the picture posted for those who don’t want phone cancer.

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    I can’t put into words how much disgust I feel for Fandom wikis. Apparently there is an alternative front-end for it, but I still need to try it out.

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    I still think it’s crazy that the same guy who created Wikipedia also founded Fandom, and I believe is still involved. Considering what Wikipedia is and its utility, it almost seems like an incompatible ideology to have anything to do with both at the same time. I guess he’s got to make money somehow…

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    For anyone who wants to avoid fandom: https://getindie.wiki/

    Redirects any fandom wiki to their Indie alternative which are in most cases the only ones actually being updated.

    For every wiki where that isn’t possible because they only exist on fandom, it redirects them to alternative frontends, which remove all the fandom crap.

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        I have also used that in the past, but when I did it only redirected fandom to BreezeWiki and not the other independent wiki.

        For example, Indie Wiki Buddy does this, while libredirect didn’t: oldschoolrunescape.fandom.com -> oldschool.runescape.wiki

        And it still doesn’t say it does that. Am I wrong with that? Cause I’d definitely use libredirect if that was the case.

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          for me is this: old School RuneScape Wiki has its own website separate from Fandom. Read Main Page on Old School RuneScape Wiki →

          The Old School RuneScape Wiki was founded on February 14, 2013. In October 2018, the RuneScape Wiki left Fandom (then Wikia), citing their apathy towards the wiki and excessive advertisements, with the Old School RuneScape Wiki following suit.

          This wiki’s core community has wholly migrated away from Fandom. You should go to Old School RuneScape Wiki now!

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            I know that. And Indie Wiki Buddy redirects to the new wiki, while libredirect doesn’t.

            I used ORS as an example. The same goes for most wikis I personally use. Path of exile, Terraria, etc. all have migrated to new wikis and Indie Wiki Buddy redirects all links from the old fandom pages to the new wikis.

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    Wait a multibillion corporation hosts an official wiki on fandom???

    Just install MediaWiki on a spare azure server…

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      Wait a multibillion corporation hosts an official wiki on fandom???

      it’s not official in that way no. “official” in this case is being used to mean “this is the wiki everyone uses, and which is acknowledged to be the Minecraft wiki”―but it has no formal ties with Mojang or Microsoft. some people have suggested they finally make the relation official to get the hell off Fandom, but i’m not sure how much Microsoft cares.

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        The real reasons why the wiki is no longer official (because everyone seems to have their own version of events) is here, but here’s the cliffnotes:

        • Mojang/Microsoft’s legal team contacted them notifying them that the contract they signed with Curse in 2011 is being terminated (probably because Curse was no longer the owners after being bought by Fandom)
        • As a result, all of the official logos/artwork/anything copyrighted by them could not be used legally.
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    Not to mentiom that Fandom rejects any attempts by the admins of their wikis to move offsite. If you put up links to the new wiki, they’ll erase them. If you start deleting your contributions, they’ll revert the edits.

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      I was just trying to remember when the old school RuneScape community got off fandom.

      Fandom wouldn’t let them nuke the wiki because they claimed to own the IP that was the crowdsourced information that filled it.

      Fuck fandom, i refuse to use them.

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        They prevent any large wiki they hosted from closing because those have good SEO. They wanted the traffic for the ad revenue, even if all mods and writers got off the platform and replaced with shitty ones.

        It really is the reddit migration before reddit migration.

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          As another example, the Path of Exile community moved off onto their own community-run wiki domain, but the Fandom variant (which is woefully out of date) continues to be one of the top results when searching for a PoE wiki page.

          In some regards that’s inevitable, but it clearly shows what Fandom’s priorities are.

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          Backfired on them, the whole OSRS community was intentionally searching for things in google and using the “official” wiki results to bury fandom, then the game devs themselves added a wiki button into the game.

          I don’t care what their rationale was, it’s to claim you own intellectual property that other people wrote for you. If I write a story, and post an excerpt to someone else’s website that doesn’t immediately confer copyright or IP ownership of that to the website owner.

          Even more so when the information that is your IP is copied word for word from another companies IP and iterated on by a third party to qualify for fair use.

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      They’re just now finding out? I guess better late than never.

      as i recall they were basically merged into the platform because their host got bought out by Fandom–it wasn’t strictly voluntary, and there have been a lot of frustrations from day one.

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    Fandom and FextraLife are fucking awful wiki sites. The former just sucks all around, and the latter just pushes their shit Twitch streaming and has a severe lack of info outside of, like, the first two Dark Souls games.

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    Even slightly older styles like Liquipedia and Wikidot have far superior interfaces to fandom wikis. Every year they seem to get slower and more bloated with additional popups. Like wth is the purpose of the “Are you a kid?” question.

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      If it’s asking whether you’re a kid, it’s probably to comply with some “think of the children” law.

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    Every little weird game i’ve played that has a fandom site, it always seems outdated and wrong. Plus mobile browsing on a phone is painful. I remember the runescape fandom site…ugh lol

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    I don’t play Minecraft, but I really hate fandom. The site is really so annoying to use. I typically avoid it at all costs.

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    good fandom sites are the ugliest & most bloated sites i’ve ever seen & used, & the only site that i’ve seen use 25-50% of the CPU (a wiki page with a lot of videos &/or gallery pages will do this every single time) while ublock is actively blocking ads. like, wtf

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    To this day it’s impossible to activate search in Fandom on iOS. Pressing the magnifying glass icon does nothing. It’s been this way for years and apparently no one at Fandom cares.

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    This makes me so happy. I’ve been wanting to start a project to scrape fandom for a while so I can just have the info without accessing their godawful website. Any time I need info on something in a game I get hit with 5 results from fandom and some half-related articles in the search results.