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- games@sh.itjust.works
“Google has taken great pains to appear more open than Apple, licensing the Android operating system to third parties like Samsung and allowing users to install apps via other methods than the Play store. Apple does neither. When it comes to exclusivity, Apple has become synonymous with “walled garden” in the public imagination. So why did a jury find that Google held a monopoly but Apple didn’t?”
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They didn’t.
They determined that Google colluded with others to protect their monopoly and keep competitors out.
Monopolies by themselves aren’t illegal.
So basically Google treated certain folks differently than others and Apple said “Fuck off” to everyone? Is that the gist?
Basically.
They didn’t. Only one of the cases was by jury, so it’s wrong to claim that “a jury found Google held a monopoly but Apple didn’t”.
And even if they were both jury trials, they’d be different juries, so it’s not like one group of people looked at all the facts and decided Google did the wrong thing and not Apple.
That’s in addition to the different facts in the case which this article is primarily about.
I wouldn’t expect anything more form the guardian. They’ve become pretty clickbait and reactionary lately. Quality has dipped.
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I disagree, The Guardian is objectively one of the best free News outlets out there. Also Op is literally just citing a side sentence out of the article. Which makes me to believe you didnt even read the article. The article make is very clear what the differences are and that the Apple case just didn’t have a jury at all.
You’ve misunderstood what I was commenting on. I am bemoaning the quality in general of the guardian as of late. Not the specific article.
The guardian is a good newspaper, don’t get me wrong, but it was way better back in the day under the previous editor. The quality has absolutely dropped over the past six years or so and any balance to an article is often rendered right at the end under a clickbait headline. These things have changed.
Buy look, that’s my opinion and you surely have yours. That’s fine too 👍.
Google claimed to be open but ran backroom deals to ensure low competition. In doing so it proved its weight in the industry could squash competition, proving its monopoly, which is illegal.
Apple never made claims it was open.
As simple as. Toss in one case was decided by a jury, and the other a judge, and you’ll quickly see neither are related.
Basically your question was nonsense from the jump, and pushed by blogs and the like to get idiots to click. Had you read the news, you’d get it. By why read when others will explain it for ya.
Your explanation is right, but the last sentence makes you insufferable
Apple never made claims it was open.
As simple as.
Sundar Pichai: “All right, fellas, let’s comply with the court riling and raise the walls. No more eco system for anyone any longer.”
hello fellow lemming,
i’m sharing an article that i thought is interesting, on a related community.
i quoted a paragraph from the article, i am not asking a question.
sharing an article won’t even necessarily mean that i agree with it.
only those who care about “clicks” blame others for doing things for clicks. I don’t give a damn about clicks.
what the fuck is wrong with you?!
This is a discussion forum. Sometimes an obvious question sparks conversation well beyond the original topic. But someone needs to ask the question first. You don’t have to be rude. Just scroll right past.
By why read when others will explain it for ya.
Isn’t that also what reading the news is???
“The jury, he argued, was essentially allowed to conjure up damning evidence in their minds that may not have existed”
Well yes, that’s exactly what the court will do if they find that you’ve been deleting evidence - they assume that whatever you deleted must have been damning to the case otherwise why would you have told employees to use “delete after 24h” communication channels?
Yeah right? That’s the long-standing procedure for deliberately destroyed evidence — the fact finder gets to make all reasonable negative inferences.
Fuck both of em?
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I also would point out that Google and Apple sells very different things. Apple does not sell iOS. It sells hardware to customers and the right to access users through this hardware to third parties (game makers). Google’s product to begin with is software (Operating System) on multiple phone platforms. Different laws and rules may apply there.
Android is free tho?
You do not pay, but Google does collect money one way or another. Regardless, it is their product, which is different from iPhone being a product.
Because in practice, the term “Monopoly” is subjective. Anti-business, anti-capitalist call every big business a monopoly, whether it is or not. They think anticompetitive means not actively helping your competition get ahead of you. Actual monopolies are almost always a creation of government regulation, which is why they get away with it.
That is a silly thing to say. Being big AND abusing your market power in an anti-competitive way is being a monopoly.
- If you sell my competitors product, you will not get the discount all other clients are getting, and your orders will go to the bottom of the pile. (Intel crushing AMD)
- If you offer your product on any other point of sale, your product will never be highlighted. (Amazon to any seller)
- You have no other choice than to buy electricity from us, so you will pay whatever price we say. (Power companies)
- We will hard-code all our applications to use our own browser, make changing the default as convoluted as possible. (Microsoft in the browser select)
- If anyone other than us repairs our product, the software will simply not allow you to use the product. (Apple, John Deere, many other companies)
- We will take all the sales data, find the biggest earning products, have them produced for us too, and then undercut your product and bankrupt you by always pointing the customer at our knock off version instead of yours. (Amazon again)
How are these A cReAtIoN oF GoBeRmEnT ReGuLaTiOnS?
Found the dumbest take on the Internet today. Nice!
Can you explain how Microsoft became a monopoly because of government regulations in the 90s?
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